Monosodium Glutamate: Bad for your brain, your figure, and your health
February 21, 2007 in Food Science, ingredient

*See note at bottom of this page.
My objective in writing this article is to present the facts about Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) and let you decide if its as benign as the recent foodie hype over at the New York Times (China’s True Dash of Flavor by Fuchsia Dunlop) would have you believe.
Introduction
MSG was discovered (1908) by Kikunae Ikeda (Tokyo Imperial University) when he was trying to pin down the chemistry behind the flavor later termed “umami“, a Japanese word that is the “IT” word amongst name-dropping with-it foodies today. He isolated this flavor from seaweed broth and called it Monosodium Glutamate. With the help of the Ajinomoto Corp of Japan, Ikeda patented MSG in 1909 and it was made commercially available for the first time. Thus, MSG has been around and in commercial use for almost 100 years. MSG was desirable because it boosted the sensation of “savory” flavors in food, especially important if you are involved with vegetarian cuisines or if you are preparing low-protein content foods for mass marketing.
MSG is now so ubiquitous in our food chain (east and west) that you would be very hard pressed to go MSG-free. As you would expect, junk foods and instant foods like soups and other mixes contain MSG. Prepared food in your grocery stores and at fast food outlets (KFC chicken skin is massively loaded with MSG) and fine dining restaurants alike are awash in MSG. Red meats, poultry, and other off-site prepared meat products are either sprayed with MSG containing solutions (Sanova, a pesticide) or injected with MSG containing compounds (hams, turkey, chicken, etc).
Prepackaged hamburger patties have MSG. Fruits and vegetables are sprayed with MSG containing washes (Auxigro, a metabolic crop primer, almost 30% free MSG). Baby foods had sub-lethal levels of MSG in the 50s until congressional hearings were held. Since then, the word Monosodium Glutamate was been removed from the labels of baby food jars but not from the food within. If you read the labels, you will recognize some of the euphemisms such as tapioca starch, modified food starch, flavorings, etc. (e.g., an ingredient list for Beechnut “Apple Delight”: apples, water necessary for preparation, dried egg yolks, citric acid, ascorbic acid (vitamin c) and zinc sulfate.) When you see the word “citric acid” in prepared food ingredient lists, think MSG. Industrial citric acid is not made from citrus fruits, its made from corn. Its not pure either. Once the citric acid is made from corn, it is contaminated by corn proteins which the producers (e.g., Archer Daniels Midland Company – ADM) do not waste time or money on removing. Those proteins are degraded or hydrolyzed into free MSG. (See this link for this information and more).
Synonyms/Euphemisms:
- Autolyzed yeast
- Calcium caseinate
- Gelatin
- Glutamate
- Glutamic acid
- Hydrolyzed protein
- Monopotassium glutamate
- Sodium caseinate
- Textured protein
- Yeast extract
- Yeast food
- Yeast Nutrient
You probably recognize some of these terms if you read labels at all. You might wonder, “Where are they getting all this hydrolyzed protein,” and you will feel nauseated when you find out. Hydrolyzed protein is often made from un-salable vegetables. These ugly (rotten?) veggies are boiled, not in water, but in vats of acid. The plant tissues are broken up and acidified and eaten away by caustic chemicals. It doesn’t end there. After this bath in acid, the veggie-acid slurry is then neutralized with a caustic soda. When this is added, the proteins coagulate into a brown sludge that then burbbles up to and solidifies as a sludge mat on the surface of the vat. This brown sludge (the end product!) is dried and powdered and is sold as hydrolyzed protein and is next seen on your tongue after eating that Dorito or those ramen noodles. (See this link for more on this) Natural, from nature, by the same standards that cyanide would be natural.
Mechanism
So whats the big deal, what is this chemical and what is it doing after all? MSG is a glutamic acid. Glutamates are neurotransmitters that effect the signaling of nerve impulses in certain neurons. With respect to flavor, taste is facilitated by the selective excitation of your tastebuds (neurons) (see these two links for some of the anatomy and physiology abound taste and smell). Glutamates such as MSG bind to a certain receptor (protein lock-and-key structure) called taste metabotropic glutamate receptor 4, truncated metabotropic glutamate receptor 1, or taste receptor 1 (T1R1) and T1R3 dimers that sit on the umami tastebud.
MSG is a pure form of a substance that our bodies usually see bound up in complex protein structures like the myofibrils in meat fibers. Because of this purity, it is absorbed extremely rapidly by our bodies (especially when it is in a liquid form, as so much of it is). When we are hit by a large bolus or amount of MSG, we experience excitotoxicity (not just some of us, all of us. Only certain people identify and correlate certain sensations to the ingestion of a bolus of MSG. Many of us are dosed continuously all day by low level exposures, leading to a near constant state of neuronal excitation). Another chemical which does the same thing and which is just as ubiquitous is aspartate (nutra-sweet).
How MSG is bad for us
Early on (in the 50s) studies reported significant issues relating to the exposure of mammals to MSG. If neonatal rats were given a single exposure to MSG, the neurons in the inner layer of their retina were killed. It was also reported that certain parts of their brains were injured as well (the hypothalamus). When considering various findings of MSG exposure in the rat, remember that humans are some 5-6 times more sensitive to MSG than rats.
At one point, researchers determined that rats would be an excellent model for the study of obesity after the exposure to MSG. MSG is a chemoinducer of obesity, type II diabetes and metabolic syndrome X in the rat. (lesion of the ventromedial hypothalamic nucleus (VMH) by administering monosodium glutamate) Thus, MSG is used in the lab to induce obesity in rats.
There is evidence that MSG disrupts the endocrine relationship between meta-thermoregulatory modulators like Neuropeptide Y (NPY) and leptin and their target tissue, brown fat. What this means is that MSG reduces the thermogenicity of brown fat while also suppressing food intake (hypophagia).
What this means on a practical level is that MSG will make you gain weight even as you decrease your caloric intake (these animals were not put on a diet, they chose to eat less).
If you ever say to yourself, “I hardly eat at all but I STILL gain weight,” you are not imagining things.
Conclusion
It is not an exaggeration to say that MSG is a cornerstone ingredient that makes our modern food industry possible. There are many more topics related to MSG that I have not covered here, but the few that I did cover should be enough to prompt most readers to learn more about MSG. I, for one, am going to give an MSG-free diet a try for our whole family. We have some pretty serious ADD dynamics happening for us, and it will be interesting to see if the reduction and perhaps eventual elimination of MSG from our diets does us any good in terms of ADD symptomology.
Going MSG-free is an extremely daunting notion. The hidden use of MSG is growing explosively with every passing year. I personally feel, after having read various scientific papers and sites in preparation for this post, that our obesity (in my family) is in large part a result of a complex interplay between MSG, insulin, and other thermoregulatory and homeostatic hormones.
Its not enough to reduce calories (I know first hand on that) and its not enough to “eat right.” I am convinced, now more than ever, that its the casual and unnecessary doping of our foods with chemicals like MSG that has lead us into obesity.
I know that some people do not believe the concerns about MSG in our food. For those people, I suggest, as a start, take a look at this rss bibliography from Medline (regarding just MSG and obesity, unfortunately limited to just the first 100 citations) for references useful in understanding what science has known for some time, that MSG is not a benign food additive.
I appreciate that you have read this far and I look forward to any of your comments.
*Note to All: Let me first say that this is not a post about what I think you should eat. I respect that you make the decisions which you need to make. You have your own special needs and desires around food. I guess all I ask is that you consume this post with an understanding that I am simply trying to educate my readers about the science of Monosodium Glutamate. This is not a discussion about whether you have a “real” food allergy or sensitivity nor is it about whether you believe that there are even any such things as allergies or sensitivities. It seems that the food blog world has this odd fascination with debating whether: 1) there actually exist food allergies or 2) if they are simply sensitivities. This post is not about any of that.
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Excellent post, Nika! Thank you for taking the time to do the research and writing for it.
Going completely MSG free will be a difficult proposition, but if you are in the habit of primarily eating whole foods anyway, it should be easier for you than for someone who eats a lot of processed or fast foods.
Where do you stand on the use of naturally occurring glutamate ingredients? As you note in your post, these ingredients have the glutamates bound up in complex chemical chains; my feeling in that case is that they are quite probably safe and healthful to eat.
It really is sad that modern humans have essentially become a population of test animals for the food industry. We in the US are for the most part eating a diet which we did not evolve to eat. And it all happened so fast that our bodies have had no time to adapt.
Which is all very interesting from a theoretical standpoint; it rather sucks, however, to be in the midst of it.
I’m off to add a link to this post to mine about MSG…you did a great job!
[...] at Nika’s Culinaria, wrote an excellent well-researched post explaining the chemistry of MSG and the health implications for humans ingesting large quantities [...]
Barbara: So glad you liked it.
Re: eating whole foods – man its so hard because I am now going to have to interrogate Whole Foods to be SURE they do not use Auxigro…
For certain, I am going to be planting an even bigger garden this year. I need to also fast track our greenhouse project.. right now its still in the planning stages.
The scary part (one ok one of several) is the washing of carcasses and smaller fabricated meats with the Sanova.. I have already sourced a local farm that grows chickens and pigs like a CSA (they also do veggies) and we will be buying from them. I have to interrogate their butchering facility to see what they use (hope its not Sanova).
We also have a local organic beef farm and will be checking them out again.
I am going to have to get some new cookbooks on MSG-free cook to not make my own MSG
This is a long term project!
Re: naturally occuring.. I think its fine as long as its still in it’s complexed form but some of the things we do in the kitchen makes free MSG (i.e., chicken stock boiled for ages).
A raw macrobiotic diet with some retooling on the MSG containing veggies and protein sources is likely where one would have to go. THAT sounds hard!
GREAT post Nika! Thank you so much! I’ll be interested to read how you attempt making your life MSG free.
Sally: thanks! I will do an update at some later point on how its going. We have to do an MSG inventory on the foods we have right now and clean out the more offensive ones. It will be like a much harder version of the things we had to do when we found out that our oldest was severely allergic to nuts.
I checked out the PubMed link for the MSG-induced obesity. That paper had no abstract, but one of the “related study” links had one. The mice were injected with 3-10 mg MSG per gram of body weight. That’s a huge dose! That would be 3-10 grams of MSG per kilogram of body weight, which for a 50-kg human (about 110 lbs, a very small person) would be 150-500 grams of MSG. This just isn’t comparable to any imaginable dietary intake. Imagine taking a cupful of MSG (or salt, or any other seasoning) and eating it! Yeah, you’d probably feel pretty awful.
We can’t necessarily conclude that something is harmful at low levels, just because it is harmful at tremendously high levels. I’m not sure what your background is, but I’m studying toxicology in graduate school. A lot of laypeople don’t understand the basic principle that “the dose makes the poison.” There is no substance that is completely safe at all levels of intake, not even water or oxygen. Researchers can induce oxidative stress–damaging levels of free radicals–by administration of pure oxygen. But that doesn’t mean we can improve our health if we stop breathing oxygen. (It does, however, mean I’m not wasting my money at an oxygen bar unless I’m at high altitudes.)
There certainly are substances that are so toxic there isn’t a safe dose. However, I don’t expect glutamate is one of those because it is a component of all protein foods. Isolated and concentrated glutamate, as in MSG, could certainly raise the level into a toxic dose, but I don’t have time to do the research right now (finals week!). It would be interesting to compare the free glutamate levels in foods with naturally-occurring glutamate versus MSG-flavored foods. If common foods, such as tomato products, meats, etc. are likely to have similar glutamate levels to MSG-flavored foods, then the next step would be to see if those foods also cause the harm attributed to MSG. I am hesitant to label something so common as a Deadly Poison without a lot of evidence it is actually harmful at actual exposure levels.
On the other hand, if MSG is typically added to foods at levels 100-1000 times what is normally found in foods, I wouldn’t rule out toxic effects. Since the intent is to simulate natural flavors, I doubt the level is that high.
Do you intend to cut all sources of free glutamate out of your diet, or just MSG? There is a long list over at Strawberries and Tigers of common Western foods, such as tomatoes, mushrooms, and more (basically anything with a savory umami flavor) that are naturally high in glutamate.
This is a very interesting topic, and I wish someone had addressed it in my Biochemical Toxicology class or the Toxicology seminar I took last year. Most of my classmates are more concerned with environmental toxicology than human health hazards. My research is on the neurotoxic effects of copper, so I picked papers related to my own project.
Excellent comments and rebuts many suppositions posted on this site. Doubt most readers will check Publink like you and I did and reached similar conclusions.
I read the article (for the most part). I have found over the years how this food preservative affects me. When I eat food containing this msg, it seems like after it metabolizes in my bowels, after about 6-8 hours, it does something to my brain. For example, if I eat it before bedtime, I will wake from a dead sleep and feel agitated and never never fall back asleep until it leaves my body! I read the food labels and esp. look for msg. I can’t enjoy seafoods because most of them have the spicy seasoning, which of course has this toxic substance on it. It may be a “good” preservative, “flavor enhancer”, or whatever, but I hate that the FDA has the right to decide what is good and what isn’t. The only good foods are the ones designed for us by God himself – fruits and veggies and of course meat from animals.
I never even though about how this affects sleep!!! We have a little girl with epilepsy, and I have been doing my best to purge our home of anything with msg!!! the only thing I found left was canned tomatoes!!!! I even buy the organic ones…but little did I know, citric acid was lying in there!!! So frustrating and disheartening, but thankful that my eyes are being opened to the truth more and more each day!!! “What God builds, let man not destroy!!!”
Good article,
I would like to know your opionions on neurotransmition. How has your life sytle change (DIET) effected the ADD at home? I have been doing it, mostly, for going on 3 years.
My daughter now 8, has had a series of medical difficulties since birth. A couple years ago an MRI discovered several brain leasions and a Chiari malformation. Chiari in its simplest explanation is a herniated brain stem. No meds. could help. We were told from a Childrens hosp. in St. Louis, when the sypmtoms gets so bad that you feel it warrants brain surgery give us a call. It got bad enough that her quality of life was being effected by central nervous system related disorders, headaches, lethargic, memory loss, concentration, very bad disposition. She had become a different child before our very eyes. When the doctors said they could not help, I began to do my own research. I decided it was worth a try. With a black trash bag, I cleaned out my cabinets. There was nothing left. 4 days later, on Sunday afternoon, my daughter was returned to me, mind, body, and spirit. It is not easy, but it is worth it.
When she begs for stuff she cant have, like McD’s. I let her have it. Later that evening she has a headache, stomach ache, or grounded for attitude, and wishes she had not eaten it. My hopes are to teach her the natural consequence for her eating choices. One day she will not be at home and have to do her own shopping. I want her to remember what happens when she eats it and not how crazy mom was.
Thanks for educating people.
donna
Hi Donna,
my go to book is “The kid-Friendly ADHD & Autism cookbook” by Cojmpart and Laake. Our daughter has epilepsy and is in the 5% tile whose system will not accept the meds. After much research my hubby and I decided to follow the plan…it has worked wonders!!!! No this is not a cure all, and yes it is a LOT of trial and error, but not having to have her brain operated on to stop the seizures has been nothing less than a miracle!!! This book explains the brain connection to differing foods and gives guidance to triggers…every persons triggers can be different. I wish the best for you and your daughter! Keep persevering, you are doing awesome by educating her, thank you for your post~
I have recently been affected by a reaction to a work uniform. They cannot find the reactive agent in the uniform but it has affected 200 of the employees at the organisation I work for. The allergy specialist we all attend believes that whatever the cause is, it has triggered our immune system into a hypereactive state. To cut a long story short – I have developed an allergy to MSG – not at all surprising given the information you have imparted! I have also developed allergies to several other foods. I have become extremely vigilant at checking food labels and not choosing anything with 621 of MSG listed but still having unexpected anaphylactic reactions and minor allergic reactions to various foods. Having read the list of euphamisms for MSG – I now understand this. Knowing this now, I realise how little I can eat from the supermarket and will have to prepare everything fresh at home.
Thanks for helping to decrease the amount of adrenaline and antihistamine I am requiring!!!!
Mel
mel: I am so sorry you are having such a hard time. Remember that cooking meats and some veggies a long time can also increase free glutamates so try to eat simple foods that are not cooked for long periods of time. Later, once your poor system relaxes a bit you can ease back into those delicious slow roasted meats and such. Same with mushrooms and tomatoes.
I had a massive allergic reaction once to penicillin and I had hives for a week until my doc gave me anti-hive meds – that let my body relax and step down from it’s immune overdive and then things evened out.
I hope you can get to a similar place. good luck!
“If you ever say to yourself, “I hardly eat at all but I STILL gain weight,†you are not imagining things.”
If MSG causes weight gain, then why isn’t Asia in the middle of a huge obesity epidemic? They eat substantially more MSG than the rest of the world–for example:
“With respect to added GLU (glutamate), only limited data are available. In EU countries the mean intake ranges from 0.3 to 0.5 g/day; in Asian countries people consume in average 1.2–1.7 g/day.”
(from eur. j. clin. nutr. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16957679?ordinalpos=6&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum )
So Asians eat twice as much added glutamate as Europeans, yet they stay slim. This seems to contradict the idea that MSG is a major causative agent for obesity in the US and Europe.
Bonnie: Its important to understand the difference between epidemiological studies (which can be confounded in very complex and poorly understood ways) and mechanistic studies as I cited above.
Additionally, understanding the difference between anecdotal observations (a rather naive and factually incorrect belief “All asians are skinny”) and scientific inquiry and investigation is key for one to have a clear and critical understanding of any “fact” or study in Science.
The erratum you reference above is in itself cautious about the use of MSG with respect to exposure in those people with a compromised blood-brain barrier.
The role of MSG as a toxin is so well known it is used as a reagent in a variety studies (as mentioned above for the induction of obesity in rat models) and in particular studies on retinal disease – try this link where MSG is used as a reagent to induce retinal damage – http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18418735?ordinalpos=2&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
For some odd reason the whole MSG thing is massively burdened by widespread cognitive dissonance.
I do not wish to convince you of anything you do not wish to see.
I would ask, as a scientist myself, that you use this as a teachable moment – learn more about MSG for yourself, keep an open mind.
Bonnie:
I thought I would share this study from Japan (birthplace of MSG).
Monosodium glutamate (MSG): a villain and promoter of liver inflammation and dysplasia.Nakanishi Y, Tsuneyama K, Fujimoto M, Salunga TL, Nomoto K, An JL, Takano Y, Iizuka S, Nagata M, Suzuki W, Shimada T, Aburada M, Nakano M, Selmi C, Gershwin ME.
Department of Diagnostic Pathology, Graduate School of Medicine and Pharmaceutical Sciences, University of Toyama, Toyama, Japan.
Chronic inflammation is a common theme in a variety of disease pathways, including autoimmune diseases. The pathways of chronic inflammation are well illustrated by nonalcoholic steatohepatitis (NASH), which is of a serious concern due to its increasing prevalence in the westernized world and its direct correlation with lifestyle factors, particularly diet. Importantly, NASH may ultimately lead to the development of hepatocellular carcinoma. We previously reported that injection of monosodium glutamate (MSG) in ICR mice leads to the development of significant inflammation, central obesity, and type 2 diabetes. To directly address the long-term consequences of MSG on inflammation, we have performed serial analysis of MSG-injected mice and focused in particular on liver pathology. By 6 and 12 months of age, all MSG-treated mice developed NAFLD and NASH-like histology, respectively. In particular, the murine steatohepatitis at 12 months was virtually undistinguishable from human NASH. Further, dysplastic nodular lesions were detected in some cases within the fibrotic liver parenchyma. We submit that MSG treatment of mice induces obesity and diabetes with steatosis and steatohepatitis resembling human NAFLD and NASH with pre-neoplastic lesions. These results take on considerable significance in light of the widespread usage of dietary MSG and we suggest that MSG should have its safety profile re-examined and be potentially withdrawn from the food chain.
Thanks for writing this great article!! I am MSG sensitive, and do fairly well at avoiding it, although its very, very difficult!
One thing that really frustrates me is that both Trader Joe’s and now Whole Foods put MSG in just about every product they sell! Yes this has been commonplace in packaged food for a long time… but these companies are at the forefront of the organic/health food movement. They manufacture and sell products labeled as “organic” that are loaded with MSG. Always disguised as innocent sounding ingredients of course: citric acid, carrageenan, spice/spices, natural flavors/flavoring, yeast extract, etc etc. Everything from soups, salsas, hummus, soy milk, sodas, beverages, spices, crackers, chips, salad dressings, etc etc. Basically if its not a raw commodity, rice, lentils, salt, etc., its potentially MSG laden.
Trader Joe’s has been notorious for this for years. They even put it in their JUICE!! How sick is that? And now Whole Foods is following in their footsteps. Really, really read the labels folks. Do the research and don’t buy the stuff with MSG or hidden MSG in it. Tell these stores and companies that you’re not supportive of this. Boycott the products. I am forced to shop at Whole Foods as Safeway is just not an option. But i do fairly well at avoiding the MSG-laden products via diligent label reading.
Jason: Thanks so much for writing! Thats something re: TJ and WFs .. I get too much of a prepared foods vibe from TJ so I never got into it much..We have bad nut allergies in our house so thats another thing I worry about in prepared foods.
I can not believe they felt the need to put MSG in the juice! Makes me think of the criminal minds that are marketing children’s vitamins made with tons of nutrasweet .. just super wrong.
Next time I go into WFs I am going to do an informal survey. I had just assumed that WFs would be selling foods without MSG and had some level of integrity around the alternative names – but I am guessing not considering what I saw at their blog and observations!
Thanks again for all the info and I wish you luck with keeping away from MSG!
The reason why asian stay thin even eatting glutamate, its because they eat fish almost every day. Fish has Taurine, kind of an antidote do glutamate. And day dont eat many milk so the intake of glutamate is not has high as us.
Ana,
Interesting theory. I think that the best would be eat lots of pollution-free fish and eat zero MSG (MSG has zero nutritive value, no case for it being a useful nutritional amendment). That way you carry no load of MSG-related neurotoxins and get plenty of high quality low-hormone protein.
Asians who eat a more western diet – who start eating the growth hormone laden beef and chicken that we do in the west, I believe they experience similar weight and diabetes issues as we non-asians do. This indicates that there is no overly dominant genetic component in the asian genome variant that will protect against the ill effects of our industrial meats.
Keeping to clean fish and clean vegetables (and moderating one’s intake of degerm’d rices like sticky rice) is a beautiful way of eating well.
What I would like to know, and it is a question not addressed by the article, is HOW MUCH MSG is harmful?
I found Kathryn’s post illuminating, especially since she discusses MSG at low doses may not be harmful at all.
So how much MSG is harmful? This, to me, is the more important question.
Common sense tells me if something is harmful in large doses, it is still harmful in small… Heroin can kill you in large doses, but it doesn’t help you any in small doses either; worthy analogy.
I have know about MSG a long while before I discovered this post and have been MSG free; entirely. I have a list of over 40-names that MSG is found under, along with other things that I have memorized for when I shop. I eat entirely organic; if I cannot find meat that is organic, I don’t eat it, I eat organic beans instead. My diet is literally that of brown rice, salt & pepper only, extra virgin olive oil (organic food store), fresh fruits and veggies scrubbed before consuming (organic food store) and anything else organic, I get my milk, eggs and cheese from organic private sellers. I do not consume anything sweet at all; my first month entirely off MSG i lost 25lbs. You cannot explain that… fact is little or lots; it’s bad for you.
I’m in medical school and I don’t think I’d be here with the assistance of MSG. Dropped it and I’m able to use my brain as it’s meant to function.
I had 2 swallows of chicken bouillon and my throat started to swell. By the time my husband got me to the hospital, my tongue, lips and face were swelled to the point that I looked gross.
It took 4 hrs for the swelling to go down in my eye lids so I could see right.
Epi and solumedrol helped, at home I had also taken benadryl 50mg before heading to the hospital.
It’s going to vary with everyone, the serverity, so why use it.
It stared with a metalic taste in my mouth and it put me in the hospital.
Notre Dame: What you might be referring to is the LD50 (lethal dose at 50%) – you can read the paper at this link to see some review of various MSG studies http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/130/4/1049S but I have not been immersed in the field sufficiently to provide a judgment on bias (or source of funding for these authors or if there has been any controversy)
As a scientist I am trained to use past studies as a basis for understanding and also as stepping stones toward further work. My experience has been in the basic sciences where research is very objective – results can be verified and repeated. The work on MSG is by and large of two types 1) mechanistic and objective on model systems 2) population studies that I have considerably less “faith” in with respect to clarity of results and bias.
busgie224: so sorry to hear about such a horrible experience! I Hope you can keep MSG out of your diet.
Notre Dame: Sorry, I hit send before I made my final point – MSG is non-nutritive and wholly optional.
It has been shown to cause defects in model animals and is an peer-reviewed/ broadly accepted chemical inducer of diabetes and obesity in model systems.
Why would anyone want to ADD this to their food if they know these risks?
Another viable reason that could explain why Asians are not afflicted with the same rate of obesity as Americans despite consuming a lot of MSG could be the co-consumption of (and amount consumed) of carbohydrates. Since MSG affects insulin sensitivity, the body is forced to pump out more insulin to deal with high blood sugar. If a culture eats a lot of sugar and refined carbohydrates (like we do in America) the harmful effects of MSG are potentiated and we see a lot more incidences of obesity. Asian diets are not very high in sugar, so their insulin insensitivity is not as noticeable.
Another point supporting this argument is the observation that many Asian people gain weight rapidly when they come to the US and begin eating our high sugar processed carbohydrate diet.
In response to the argument that the levels of MSG used in the rat studies were not likely to be encountered in regular foods: though we may be consuming much less MSG than what was used in the study, it may still present the same problems, but over a longer time span. If you consider how quickly the obesity was induced in rats with that amount of MSG, you can see just how devastating the chemical is. If it can completely destroy a creatures metabolism in such a short time span (assuming rats live only about 2.5 years on average- lab rats much fewer-it would have to be well within that time frame) it can surely do some damage at lower levels over a longer time. It may take 20 or 30 years for your MSG consumption to show up on your waistline, or it may be sooner depending on the amount you consume.
Also note that humans are much more susceptible to the effects of MSG than rats are, so it is not a straight g/kg comparison. You would need to divide your numbers by about 4 if what nika says is correct.
While this is still a huge amount of MSG, you need to realize that that is the amount it would take to make you obese in the span of only a few years.
Yet another thing I like to consider when deciding which side of an argument to believe (in this case, the FDA or the anti-MSG people) is which party has something to gain from their argument. The FDA has good reason to allow MSG in foods even if it is potentially harmful. The researchers whose data points to MSG being harmful really have nothing to gain from MSG being pulled from the market. It seems that those with the least invested interests are the ones most likely to tell the truth, a principle I believe to be sound in any situation.
Anyway, those are just my thoughts. I plan on studying this in depth some time in the next few years, so I’ll let you all know more as I find it out
And lastly, I want to thank nika for a well-thought out and fair presentation of the topic. It is rare to find an article on the dangers of MSG that is not written by some hysterical vegan witch-doctor. Too often the MSG argument is radicalized to the point of feeling like a hoax. It is easier to hear a message when it is presented in a neutral perspective, so thank you for your concise and scientific argument.
I am so impressed with your article on MSG. I have had a sensitivity to it since I was 14 years old (that was when it was first used in school lunches). I would develop migraines within five minutes after consumption, my blood pressure would shoot sky high and no doctor could figure out what was wrong with me – so they gave me glasses and sent me on my way. Of course this did not help! There were times when I consumed enough that I actually passed out. It is a wonder I never had a stroke. The FDA was wrong in rating this a “Safe for consumption food”. Thank you for writing such a wonderful artical!!!!
Naturally occurring MSG shouldn’t be an issue. But anything processed is anything but natural. Natural flavour is a crock. It’s a sales gimmick to make you think you’re getting a better product. The truth is, you’re getting a cheaper product, with MSG created during the flavour stripping process.
The problem is with not natural MSG is that it contains other chemicals and different forms of glutamic acid..
http://www.truthinlabeling.org/III.What%20is%20MSG.html
I have stayed away from processed foods with MSG for a few years now.
Guess What?
I no longer snore. I no longer have insomnia. I no longer need to set the A/C at 66F to sleep. I average 2 colds a year now.
Keep spreading the word!
I have been sensitive to MSG since I was a kid. It took me until I was in my 20′s to realize I was intolerant of MSG. I am much healthier and happier.
Check out Lisa Kramer’s No MSG For Me Cookbook. I recently purcahsed it from http://www.lulu.com. It is a great cookbook if you are avoiding MSG. You can checkout the website at http://www.nomsgforme.com
I stumbled upon your site from a google search for differences between citric acid and MSG, and I’m so glad I did. My father is MSG-intolerant and to a lesser extent, so am I. I learned a lot from your post and the studies you linked to.
I try to read labels and eat healthfully, but I can tell almost immediately when I’ve been dosed with MSG. My stomach gets very bloated – we’re talking a hard, distended belly – and then, a terrible thirst and major abdominal discomfort. No matter how much water you drink, you can’t quench the thirst! After a few hours it dies down, and is often followed by diarrhea. Not fun.
But the most shocking thing is how many foods MSG sneaks into! I know by now to avoid things like pre-made soups and sauces and to always ask at Chinese restaurants. But a few months ago, I ate some pre-packaged (mistake, should have made my own) plain naan bread and had a major MSG attack. I fished the plastic wrapper out of the garbage, and sure enough… MSG.
The link to obesity is very interesting. I’m not obese, but could stand to lose 5 or 10 lbs. One more reason to avoid this icky chemical! :p
Kris: Wow, you really have a bad reaction! I think I have about the same sort of reaction but not as severe.
When I was pregnant with my 3rd I ate some chinese food and became violently ill (had to stop the car and jump out!).
MSG is a perfect metaphor for all that is wrong with modern Big Ag. You use chemicals to compensate for lazy unconscious and uncaring food growing and preparation.
When “they” do archeological studies on us 1000s of years from now MSG (as well as soy and HFCS and lots of other crap in modern food) will be like lead was for the Romans.
I’ve had some problems since 1 year and I haven’t been able to find the problem, but things are going way better since I don’t eat pre-made stuff. I have stomach pain a little like Kris, and I’m beginning to think that the Monosodium Glutamate is guilty of it. Thanks for the “Synonyms” list!
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Hello Nika! Wow, I am extremely interested in your research and wonder after all the years that I’ve poisoned myself how I am still breathing! It is now highly apparent to me now that the FDA will continue to do absolutely nothing about their non action decision to re-evaluate the safety of this flavor enhancing chemical until medical examiners and coroners determine COD to be MSG related! As my favorite female comedic actor and a truly beautiful human being Gilda Radner used to say, “It’s always something”, couldn’t possibly be more truer about this monster that was created over 100 years ago! I ate my last serving of Cheese Its last night…. I hope it isn’t to late for me and my family. This is truly scary stuff you just made me aware of! I wonder if once my body is cleansed of the crap, that my ears will stop ringing??? I sure hope so! Thanks again, PatisserieChefBilly
Thanks Nika for sharing the information related to MSG and sources of MSG. The time you have taken to share your research findings and non-bias educational and common-sense approach is nice to see. I have read a range of posts regarding MSG and your page is a highlight.
I was diagnosed by my pediatrician when I was 3 years old and glutamate sensitive and to avoid all foods that contain it. I am fortunate enough to have been diagnosed early in life and to have had a pretty great and healthy life, until the last few of years (age 29 to 32) when I was consuming what I had believed to be “MSG free foods”.
What bothers me a little is that not enough research regarding MSG and other glutamate ingredients. Or not enough money going into research the effects of commercial glutamates. Many food companies, FDA & Canadian Food Inspection Agency say that the ingredients are safe, that symptoms are short-lived and people with MSG sensitivities should avoid it. Hmmm…How are “We” glutamate sensitive people supposed to avoid it if we have no idea what glutamate labels to avoid? Although, I dislike to be a glutamate-consumer lab-rat, I have recorded my experiences and am hoping a scientist/toxicologist will research it further and perhaps my 33 years of experience can help out. Plus, I might be able to help other people recognize their symptoms clearer, since I have no other health issues or allergies…just glutamate.
This is what I have found and hypothesized over the past year since I have been avoiding glutamate ingredients.
1) Mushrooms, tomatoes, parmesan cheese – I have no MSG symptoms and can eat until my hearts content and consume them weekly. Q: is there a difference in how the body metabolizes glutamate from fresh produce vs. processed glutamate?
2) MY MSG symptoms schedule: Within 10-15min: face numbness; light headed above/behind the eyes; cannot easily find my words/converse in a conversation; complexion goes pale; 45min-1hour: all of the above symptoms, plus I can feel pressure around cerebellum up towards mid-back of my head; 1hr/2hr-next 36 to 48 hours: migraine headache, sleep, eyes tear, sometimes I get a fever up to 102degrees; Day 3: Can move, go to the washroom, watch TV, but cannot read without feeling nauseous; Day 4: Can function and perform daily tasks/routines and normal functions. *This reaction has been triggered by MSG, autolyzed yeast extract (*labelled Natural Vegetarian Flavour), hydrolyzed yeast extract, yeast culture, malt extract.
3) Since avoiding all foods containing: disodium inosinate, disodium guanylate, spices and seasonings all of these other symptoms (except weight gain) have disappeared. My 8-hour sleep cycle has returned! I was sleeping 14 to 18 hours per day. The other symptoms include: indecisiveness, nausea, dizziness, severe muscle weakness, stomach bloating/pressure/burning sensation and cramping, weight gain (30lbs) and depression/anxiety.
My doctor ran blood tests, i had an ultrasound, looked at by GYN and we found nothing that could explain all my symptoms. It wasn’t until I was eating these “preservative free” chips that contained disodium inosinate and disodium guanylate and did some research on the Internet. My hypothesis: the above ingredients may have an accumulative effect? Maybe effected by dose? May behave differently then MSG and #2 ingredients.
Other hypothesis:
Re: Blood-brain barrier – I was 2mths premature at birth. Could individuals who were born prematurely be susceptible an intolerance of commercially-processed glutamates?
Re: Domoic Acid – Neurotoxicity and the effects on the hippocampus? amygdala? brain?
Glad to have read your post and others. Thanks.
aNYBODY AND EVERY ONE HAS difference tolerances, however if you have had any head truma you are more subseptable, as it builds in your system it never leaves.so the tolerance level builds,at my point if i taste any thing that has it in my throath closes shut..I can no longer get air in unless you open a hole in my throat.I carry two EPI PENS AND MUST GO RIGHT TO EMERGENCEY ROOM,AND RECEIVE ADDITIONAL DRUGS OXYGGEN,AND WATCHED FOR THE NEXT 8 HOURS BECAUSE AS IT FLOWS IN YOUR BLOOD THE REACTION CAN COME BACK….. The f.d.a. decided that in1972 they allowed food manufacturers to us over 40 names along with numbers.President Bush pushed aa bill through congress called the hamberger bill to allow it to be put in beef.If you are allergic please by this book from amazom.com EXCITOTOXINS BY Dr Russell.l Blaylock.MD and they have others BUT MUST DENNIS MCDONOUGH
I too have had some probable reactions to MSG–like nausea,severe headache,unquenchable thirst,and poor cognitive function.I`m somebody with a history of emotional and behavioral problems(depression,anxiety,avoidance and hostile behaviors)I`m someone who should be avoiding MSG(and GMOs,for that matter)at all costs.But sometimes I get a little complacent and think,”oh well,its in everything,so F it,i`ll eat it anyway” or i rationalize that depending on how its identified or where it appears in the list,that maybe the amount contained in the product will be comparatively low.So consumers have to be vigilant about avoiding this crap at all costs,ESPECIALLY,if they have emotional or behavioral problems,which are aggravated by glutamates.Hyperactive and dysfunctional children?-think glutamates! Its a sad fact that we live in world in which we have increasingly little or no control over what we are exposed to,whether its adulterated food,an atmosphere full of ionized metallic salts,or dumbed down television…….
I studiously avoid all MSG and related forms in foods, and yes, it’s changed my buying habits to bulk, plain foods that I then have to prepare into delicious meals – ‘the hard way’. So in a way, I’m grateful that the preponderance of this chemical has pushed me into becoming a better cook and healthier eater (and I started from a pretty good place).
I was horrified to see MSG et al.’s resurgence a few years ago, after the uproar against it in the 80s. Sure there are those who claim to have no sensitivity to it, but I honestly believe there are people with such poor diets and lifestyles that they just feel crappy all the time as a baseline norm. They would have to feel good for a while, to recognize feeling lousy.
My reaction is similar to some others above – terrible thirst, horrible sleep, pounding heart, confused brain. Even without the threat of further harm (diabetes, retinal damage, obsesity!) this is unpleasant enough for me to avoid MSG at all costs.
I live in Costa Rica, and to my horror, baby food contains MSG here (as does just about everything else). Children grow up with their taste buds so electrified they can’t enjoy ‘normal’ flavours any more, and the cycle continues.
There are ways to make food delicious without this cheap, damaging, lazy shortcut (and no, it’s not just plain table salt). Soup broths? My favourite flavours include bay leaves, celery leaves & stalks, coriander seeds, carrots, onion, garlic and lemongrass. And a sound night’s sleep to boot.
Katroushka: awesome! Thank you for sharing your story and also what you have done for your diet.
I totally agree with all your rec’s re: alternatives – so sorry to hear that CR is so flooded with MSG – US baby food STILL has MSG in it – just labelled differently so the consumer can not worry their pretty little heads about it all.
Crazy this MSG thing – I’ve had my first bout at 15 and have had trouble ever since, I’m now 41.
With no help from doctors, I was on my own. Over the years I’ve figured out what foods work and which don’t (the list of don’ts is getting quite long). It’s all trial and error. Even my husband and kids know what I can eat and what I can’t. They’ll take a bite and say, I don’t think you should try this.
Funny how I stumbled on this thread this while digging around the web after writing a note to Trader Joe’s asking them to provide me with specific’s as to what the ‘spices’ are in their Hummus. I am certain of the answer based on how I’ve felt all afternoon since I ate some. I know better than this – I have stopped buying products that don’t specify exactly what’s in it. However, in a weak moment I was hoping TJ’s would be ok. Oops, shame on me.
Anyway, I highly recommend the ‘Battling the “MSG Myth” A Survival Guide and Cookbook’ . It’s the most comprehensive, yet hopeful book I’ve seen. I lent it to a friend who’s battled for years extreme fatigue and a list of ailments that mainstream medicine does nothing for. He can barely get out of bed each day. Of the 25 symptoms the book lists on it’s cover, he has 22. After 2 weeks of eliminating MSG and Free-Glutamate containing foods from his diet his feeling better than he has in years. Get that!
This is a real problem. And for the 30% (or so they say) of us who have some degree of sensitivity to MSG it’s not going to get better anytime soon.
Honestly, I almost have more trouble with Trader Joe’s products than any other store. It’s probably because I let my guard down figuring they are offering me a wholesome alternative – guess not. I’ll have to scrutinize their labels just like any store. Sure wish there was a place that offered true alternatives. Sure would be nice to have a break from this now and then.
I am currently battling trying to remove MSG from my daughter’s diet and I’ve also tried to remove much MSG from my diet. My daughter was diagnosed autistic a year ago (moderate as the scale goes). I’d say today she would not have that diagnosis although some minor nuances still exist. I attribute much of her improvement to removing MSG from her diet. After 5 months of my diet, if I have too much in a meal I instantly get a horrible headache followed by hours of nausea – it’s awful.
It’s also a crime how difficult it is to get pure food. I’ve had the most difficult time just trying to identify what’s in foods and deciphering food labels. Pretty much boils down to back to basics – avoiding all canned foods, and prepared foods so food preparation takes a bunch more time. I’ve also found an antidote that works for me – xxxxxx. It has glutathione and molybdenum (sublingual). If I take after I realize I’m having a reaction, it’s amazing that it takes the edge off the reaction (down to a mild reaction). As we end the year, it’s great that my family has been gluten-free for a year and look forward to spreading the word of the evils of MSG and also looking for creative food solutions.
I’m confused. In China..where MSG is widely used, or for that matter in Japan, obesity isn’t a problem like in N.Am. I’m all about avoiding MSG and free glutamate in particular, but it’s going to be very difficult if so many sprays and washes and starches are laden with glutamate.
What’s the connection with tapioca starch….a key ingredient in my gluten free diet.
I have had severe reactions to msg but didn’t realize what the cause was until about 6 yrs. ago when I had most of my thyroid removed. I now have a tumor on my parathyroid and my current dr. cannot tell if I have only one parathyroid, so he doesn’t want to biopsy this unless it grows bigger. I now believe this is caused by msg. In the past month, if I have even a little msg, such as one small drink of juice or coffee cream, I start itching all over, get a headache, sweating, head & neck feel very hot, nausia, joint pain, short of breath, pounding heart, legs & feet swelling, irrtated easily, sore throat and runny nose. I am very limited on what I can eat & drink and this is very frustrating. I also have a history of kidney stones, so this limits the vegetables that I can eat. It is so sad that msg is allowed in our food. Our government is trying to make americans more healthy but are neglecting the fact that msg is actually our main culprit!
Thanks for sharing your research. I am trying to improve my diet and know more about what I’m putting into my body (better nutritional habits). I wasn’t aware that so many foods have MSG. You always here about Asian foods having MSG and many restaurants now advertising No MSG in there food; and I’ve seen seasonings liquid & dry which say MSG, but veggies. WOW!!!
I just started reading a great book on HFCS ( high frutose corn syrup) and the numerous sugar saturated drinks which are making us all sick and which is believed to be one of the leading causes or contributory factors of: obesity, diabetes, heart disease, liver and kidney disease, arthritis, gastrointestinal disease to name a few.
The book is called, “The Sugar Fix” by Richard J. Johnson, MD; and Timothy Gower. It is equally vital that we protect ourselves from this elusive and also very widely used and masked additive to our drinks and foods.
Hi Nika,
Is Monoammonium Glutamate same as monosodium Glutamate?
For me it sounds the same but I want to make sure it is not just another similar compound linked to other health hazards. I am asking this because I bought a Chicken Ganulated Bouillon from Herbox that says “NO MSG added”…but there is Monoammonium Glutamate on the ingredients!
Thanks
Fran Carvalho
Fran: jeepers – food manufacturers really think consumers are stupid… it is considered a food enhancer, its an ammonium salt of glutamate
here is a link for that compound http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoammonium_glutamate
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Thank you for posting this! I was diagnosed with a gluten and MSG sensitivity in September of 2010. I have been living completely MSG and gluten free since then. It really is a daunting notion, but it’s doable. I have to cook all of my meals, and I can’t eat anything processed, but I feel a million times better now. I’ve also went from 160 to 125 with only avoiding those two food baddies. Life is a little difficult on this side of MSG, but it’s totally worth it.
This is a great article. I am working on a website that helps identify MSG in ingredients of any product. I am working on improving it to add more MSG aliases, but for now anyone interested is welcome to test it out:
http://www.msgfind.com
Any feedback is appreciated!
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Danielle
Thank you so much for this report. It helped me a lot.
The GAPS diet is free of MSG. It heals the body of all the ailments that MSG and other evils of our world have caused. Our family has shown drastic improvements in symptoms of ADD, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, High Anxiety Disorder, bed wetting, eczema, allergies, and celiac disease by following this extremely healthy diet.
Joan (Mom of 5)
Great post! I did not realize until recently the effect MSG has on the brain and body. When I have taken time to do a cleanse and eat properly, I have noticed that I stop eating when I’m full. Once I go back to eating some junk food and prepared foods, I notice I keep on eating past the point of being full.
I really appreciate learning all the synonyms/euphemisms for MSG. I do read food labels and value having this knowledge to make better choices for myself and my family. Please accept my sincere thanks and gratitude.
For those who are interested, here is link to a documentary you can see on YouTube which speaks about the effects of MSG and much more.
thank you giving me something to think about when choicing by next meal.
Hello,
This article is very informative. I know a kid who start eating instant noodles every alternate days after he turned two. his mother used to feed him with it as he used to refuse to eat other things. He fell sick badly with respiratory infections and now a days he has acidity very often. i’ve seen him vomiting many a times after eating instant noodles or pasta. I am sure it also affects the digestive system very badly especially if consumed in such industrial amounts daily.
In India, we get lot of instant mixes, you’ve just heat, add veg/meat to it and the curry is ready. but we use ground spices too to add taste to our food, called as garam masala. I feel that’s better as we atleast know that we aren’t consuming any MSG.
Thanks for the information.
AAJ,
Thank you for writing… sounds like that person should stay away from MSG and all the other nasty chemicals he has now become sensitized to if he is vomiting from eating instant noodles.
Indian cuisine is ancient and based on a deep medical/scientific understanding of the effect of foods and spices on the body – not only is that garam masala tasty and do an awesome job flavoring a dish – it is also good for the body! (I am sure I am not telling you anything new there
In the US and likely in India, MSG is hidden by many different names and is pumped into foods like crazy to cover over the fact that people are eating tasteless non-foods like doritos chips and other junk food. I am a scientist and I find the MSG name landscape daunting. I am convinced that only a food chemist in the food industry can definitively identify and avoid MSG and other dangerous food additives.
We try to never eat prepackaged foods and make everything from scratch. We also raise our own chickens for eggs and meat and our own dairy goats more milk/cheese/yogurt, etc and we grow veggies in the winter months – all so that our food is not exposed to these nasty chemicals – chemicals added to cover poor ingredients or to make the food easy to handle during the manufacturing process and not to add anything to the consumer’s nutrition.
Its a crazy industrial world out there isnt it!
Thanks for your comment..
Nika
sorry didnt mean to say winter months – summer months! in winter nothing grows here
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Dear Mika,
I suffered from MSG allergy for the last 15 years. What triggered it I am not sure because I could tolerate it when I was much younger. The slightest whiff of MSG would send my blood pressure to a range of 175/100 to 220/120 and I had been rushed to emergency rooms so many times.My sister in law who is a nurse and many of my friends and relatives cannot relate to this allergic reaction and think I was exaggerating until one day at her home, I complained about the room spinning around me and when she took my blood pressure, It was so high she would not tell me how high. The culprit? An innocent looking Asian dessert with coconut milk added. When we read the label, sure enough the powdered coconut milk had MSG on it. the only way I can recover is to forced empty my stomach and use a sublingual blood pressure tablet.
I grow my own food in an organic farm, make my own organic farm inputs using the ‘bokashi’ method, eat only free range chicken and farm grown tilapia that feeds on water lily and Algae.to round up the flavor of my recipes I add a little bit of muscovado sugar or sea salt for sweet recipes. I add MSG free dried seaweeds and mushrooms and lots of health herbs and root crops to flavor m soups.
By the way, I am n Asian who has lived in most countries in Asia. I believe Asians are slimmer because they eat lots of vegetables, eat a lot of hot food (Southeat Asia, Korea) drink lots of herbal teas that flush out unwanted fats and toxins from their bodies instead of sugar or aspartame laden sodas, and they walk a lot whereas westerners use their cars everywhere as a result of the suburban sprawl.
Mercy,
Thank you for sharing! Its so very hard to catch all MSG in our foods – and thus have control over what we eat – because its hidden so often. I am sure you are an expert now at figuring it out!
I completely agree with you regarding the reasons for the lower obesity rates in asian countries – its the US couch potato car culture.
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